they did that with bill clinton and barack obama. that's standard. they had to explain how a guy like that got elected. in a story they decided to tell themselves was that george w. bush had not been conservative enough. in a way he had. the prescription drug program, but their conclusion was he gave conservatism a bad name, and because it had a bad name, it gave rise and made people susceptible to obama. >> hence the tea party. >> what they decided to go was go extremely far to the right. you had a two-front war, one against obama or one against any that strays from ideology. mitt romney can embrace the ideology that the republican party embraced post-2008, which is poisonous to an election. paul ryan budget, they're not running on the paul ryan budget. i don't know why they put him on the ticket. >> oh, my god. >> you can do what mitt romney has done. stay away from that stuff as much as you can and you can run this message of, hey, i'm the protest vehicle. if you're unhappy where the economy is, vote out obama. that's the better calculation. we're